Un antiguo abogado de derechos de autor, sorprendido por la perspectiva del CEO de la RIAA, destaca cómo la historia personal y la evolución de la industria pueden transformar las opiniones arraigadas sobre la piratería musical.
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Today, I’m talking with Mitch Glazier, who is CEO and chairman of the RIAA. This conversation was a real full-circle moment for me: I was in college when Napster hit, and the RIAA became everyone’s villain for suing kids for downloading music. That was when I decided to go be a copyright lawyer, which set the rest of my career in motion — and Mitch was in the background as a young lawyer at the RIAA working on those cases. So part of me was very deeply, very genuinely surprised to discover just how much fun I had talking to Mitch. That’s because here in 2026, Mitch, the RIAA, the record labels, the artists, and ordinary people are all pretty unhappy with the big AI companies in the same way, for training on everyone’s work without permission and flooding our feeds with slop. Verge subscribers, don’t forget you get exclusive access to ad-free Decoder wherever you get your podcasts. Head here. Not a subscriber? You can sign up here. Everyone is mad about it! And since the RIAA is both the group that lobbies for changes to the law and also the group that files lawsuits about things that affect record labels and distributors, Mitch is a pretty busy guy these days. We got deep into the legal complexity of things like AI deepfakes, how banning them might affect other kinds of expression, and how the AI detection and labeling systems that we all seem to want might actually work in practice — especially if big platforms like Spotify and YouTube don’t get on board. I just want to get right into it. This conversation is a real ride through how AI, the law, art, and commerce might all intersect. I think you’re going to be able to tell, Mitch and I had a lot of fun talking about it. Before we get going, do me a favor and subscribe to Decoder on YouTube, where we put out new episodes every Monday and Thursday. Okay: RIAA CEO Mitch Glazier. Here we go. This interview has been lightly edited for length and clarity. Mitch Glazier, you’re the chairman and CEO of the Record
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